BRIAN MCCLURE INTERVIEWS ROBERT "BOB" CHEW ON "A CALL TO CONSCIOUSNESS" with Intuitive Linda Drake 01/03/20008 http://abc4all.net http://abc4all.net/rcresume.htm http://abc4all.net/bc.htm http://abc4all.net/mcclure010308.mp3

Good day. Welcome to "A Call to Consciousness" with author and host, Brian McClure. Brian and his guests share their personal stories to empower you in knowing that you, too, are the difference makers in our world. Now here's your host. Brian McClure.

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Today our guest is Robert Chew http://abc4all.net/rcresume.htm who describes himself as a "lifelong entrepreneur." His greatest joy is in the field of consulting which includes helping start up organizations go from concept to full funding. His attention in this field is focused on socially responsible and green focused businesses that will save the planet and many of our 6 billion plus inhabitants...and then you have to add all of nature... You get the picture! Bob is also the co-founder of ABC4All: www.abc4all.net, this wonderful joint venture project that is Worldwide! A Better Community For All empowers people and communities to Serve Others. Join us for Bob Chew and his Call to Consciousness.

Bob, welcome to our show.

Bob: Yes, Good morning. I'm happy to be a guest on the show, and thank you for the wonderful introduction.

Brian: No problem. You've done some wonderful work. So Bob, I would love to have you tell our audience and myself about where you were born and raised. Give us a background.

Bob: I am a lifelong California resident, born in Southern California, born in a little community called Covina, and that is well over 50+ years ago. I grew up mostly in Berkeley, California. So I do herald a kind of non conventional city that is always kind of first to be on the environmental charts, the first to somehow take a look at what's not right with the world and to make a voice.

Brian: And so that shaped a lot of your thought process today, as you've been very proactive in helping our world, I'm sure. Did you go to school in California at one of the colleges?

Bob: Yes, I'm actually a product of the Berkeley Public Schools, and back in the late 1980s, I had a chance to form my first nonprofit. It was the Alumni Association for Berkeley High School. So that helped give me a sense of community right as I was a teenager.

Brian: And so what did you do with that nonprofit?

Bob: That nonprofit is still in existence today. There are many alumni who would hail the Berkeley Public Schools as opposed to being in the shadow of the University of California at Berkeley. One of those members is Jack LaLanne, and he's kind of like an idol to us, someone who took and championed the cause of personal health as he has been on television for many years and many decades and still is with us in his mid 90s I think by now.

Brian: He is incredible. I used to watch him when I was a young boy as he would have the Jack Lalanne Show on. He was certainly the pioneer of exercise and diet at the same time.

Bob: He still sells his juicer.

Brian: Absolutely. And so at a young age, how did you decide that you should start a nonprofit? I'm curious. You were in high school.

Bob: We were high school graduates, about 10 years after our alumni association got formed. It was back in the 80s. I'm a product of 1969, so that gives you a little time frame as well. But the whole idea is that we were always hell bent on community service, taking a proactive approach, and John Kennedy had a great influence on all of us during that era.

Brian: Ok. So really you were a product of your environment and just had an internal calling to start at a young age. How did you branch out after you started that nonprofit? What other things did you do to further push the change that you wanted to see?

Bob: I think the community environment was one of the best learning environments. During the strikes at San Francisco State University, where I did graduate eventually, that was a 5-year commitment to multiple interdisciplinary degree in 3 different departments, and a lot of what became very socially available to me I was also exposed to the very conservative newspaper back in high school days. I had won an essay contest on certain safety issues around the high school, and had the pleasure of working as a copy boy at the age of 16, working in a daily newspaper environment. So very much following the journalism path, if I would, and also being aware of so many things consciously changing in the 60s, it was very tumultuous. It was a time where personal decisions would make a difference, and people who stood up and raised a fist in the air, that kind of scenario, I'm talking about the free speech movement back in the 60s, all that had a direct bearing.

Brian: And so you went out into your community, and once you graduated from college, what did you do?

Bob: I was actually involved in advertising and promotion for about 2 years. Beyond that, the first 10 years afterwards, I have always maintaining a sales representative type of role. Financial planning, estate planning was always intrinsic to my way of helping people solidify their financial lives, and that was a particular 15-year journey for me, and I also got involved with managerial endeavors, like being involved as a manager of a CopyMat store working in the reprographics copy area. As one of my emphases, I was involved in graphic arts and the school of creative arts besides business and putting together speech communication courses during my earlier years as a college graduate then. So the likelihood of integrating a lot of these things together gave me a perception that really we do have to have personal responsibility as part of our personal growth and theme. That brings us perhaps full circle to being a close invitee of working with Burton Danet, and feeling back in the late 90s - early 2000 era this was a time that we could really make a difference, and that kind of brings us full circle working with nonprofits as well.

Brian: How did you start to work with start-up organizations, nonprofits that would help to refocus, change our current way of being in this paradigm?

Bob: The most current work which I love and enjoy doing is working with dozens of nonprofit ideas. ABC4All was certainly one of the earlier ones that received our early focus and attention, but the real catalytic organization I would have to give contributions or acknowledgement to would be Income Builders International (IBI) http://ibiglobal.com which is now renamed CEOSpace.biz http://ceospace.biz/ - that environment, almost 3 years now, I have had the privilege and the honor to work in a networking organization, probably one of the oldest entrepreneurial networks throughout the world that celebrated almost 20 years now of its existence, and it touched upon the original authors that you might think of here, for the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" series - that has a tremendous impact on how people interact with their community, how their personal lives have impacted others, and to hear the original founders of the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" series at our anniversary event just in the last 2 weeks. They concluded a December event that was very historic and record numbers of 600+ people attending that particular main forum. So here we have quite an arrangement of people meeting in a safe environment, committing to each other the confidentiality of what is shared in their business aspirations and also finding ways to plus what they do - this is who I am, here's what I'm doing, here's what I need next, and that is a tremendous shift in my thinking to realize that in cooperation and through cooperation you are able to realize so much more for the community and eventually for the whole world.

Brian: How did you start to interact with ABC4All?

Bob: It was back in the late 1990s that we first met Burt on the telephone. At that time, we were working with the Just Say Yes Foundation, and YES stood for the young entrepreneurial spirit. So we were looking at ways to engender the type of people who would help us transition to partnerships, and Partnerships for a Better Community for All fit right in with the same theme. We were on parallel paths. The invitation from Burt and him disclosing his personal feelings about ways to give back to society and to help out the community, I felt that it was just a lifelong passion to be aligned with it, and we got to know each other over a 2-3 year period, and finally we got to meet in person. So that transition is probably closer to 10-12 years now.

Brian: How do you combine all of the different groups that you are working with?

Bob: That's a good question as a consultant, because for the most part, I do a lot of things in gratis to help one another. The hard part is finding out ways where our efforts and our personal network has been of mutual benefit to so many others who are also fairly new or new initiates to the CEOSpace.net culture. The hard part is to find out that if you can, in fact, embrace new technologies in the world, that would become a consultant income stream or a multiple income stream for myself, and it's just now taking hold, after a good 5-10 year adventure into going back into different clientele and working with others, I'll be helping launch, personally, this year in California, a light rail system for the community as a feeder to help people move in and around the State without having to go into a cars or automobiles.

Brian: Tell us how you put that program together.

Bob: That was a 7-year passion, and I had the original opportunity of meeting the original founder who since passed on, but knowing full well that it was a vision to a dream that said, I wish I could put something together that would bring 4 million people into Yosemite without encouraging them to drive more cars into a very pristine beautiful backdrop of nature. The two ideas came together, right about 1999-2000, I had the privilege of meeting the founder and their whole team and just now, 7-8 years later, I have had the vision to put together the corporate team who are now appealing to - if you can understand this - humanitarian funding. There is actually out there people who would love to be building and working with infrastructure so that now has become my livelihood, if you would, one of maybe a half a dozen projects, in the coming year.

Brian: And so you've gone out and you've asked for the funding of people in California and whoever is willing to put some money up to help change the way that people get in to the park. How long is this system going to be? What are the plans for it?

Bob: Over the next 2-3 years, there is some technology to be effected in a public transit system. There is a proof of system period that lasts almost a year and a half. Beyond that, it will not become a possible connector to downtown sectors and to airports. Thanks to 911 on a different note, it has caused everyone to move the parking lots further and further away from the arrival gates of the airports. As a direct result, that caused all airports to finally realize we now need something better than a bus as a people mover. So that created a void. And that void is hopefully going to be filled by the type of technology that we embrace over the last 7-10 years.

Brian: What type of dollar commitment do you need to build this system?

Bob: It will pretty much run in that 10-20 million dollars per mile. That may sound like a lot of money to most people, but when you break it down by per passenger and per individual versus the energy just to move the people, it's very efficient.

Brian: Out of the 10-20 million per mile, how many miles is it going to be?

Bob: Your average connector from airport to parking lot is somewhere between 3-5 miles, so that definitely a closed loop system, one in San Francisco is a good example. The International Airport has its totally unmanned different cars that run on electrical rail, and basically it does get the job done to connect with the Bay Area Rapid Transit System, also tie you right in to the airport itself, so there is a little bit of pulling your luggage and so forth that is a little bit cumbersome, but beyond that, it does get you to and from the parking area right into the airport.

Brian: Is this train you are talking about going to be working with airports or is it going to be taking people into the park?

Bob: It will definitely take people into airports first. The vision that came together 7-10 years earlier was one that is going to be further down the road, maybe 10 years before that can be a human possibility. It just takes so much longer to get permits, and everything else.

Brian: Is there state and federal funding for that?

Bob: There will be some. The beautiful thing is that we are going into the private sector, so we are not going to have as long a wait, and the private marketplace is very ripe for new green technology that we discussed earlier. The whole idea of working with green technology is that you are not having to put it onto the backs of the taxpayers.

Brian: Is this a model that you have seen other cities use? Or is California going to be the first State?

Bob: Portland, Oregon is a good example. It has a Metro system that was done with a combination of both private funds and public funds, working in cooperation. So we are not the first. It does exist, and you will see more and more of this. Also move into the sector on water as well, and I'd like to share a few thoughts on that technology as well.

Brian: Bob, you wanted to tell us about the work you are doing with water. I know you've done a number of things. Why don't you tell us about it?

Bob: Yes, the whole concept of working with good, clean drinking water around the world was a call to consciousness for me going back a little over 2-1/2 decades. Our daughter who was first born in 1978, she had the first calling out that involved the putting together of a formula, and I started to investigate many technologies back then. Reverse osmosis seemed to be one of the better solutions where our old technology would literally take out all the pollutants and everything. So this goes back closer to 30 years now - the ability to take clean water and to offer it up to the rest of the world. The reasons I'd love to talk more about water is that since then, we've looked at many different types of technologies, that would get into and out of the home environment, the work environment and certainly into the community environment, and I will be happy to share more as time permits.

Brian: Well I'd love to hear about water, because water is one of the very large problems that we have in our world. Most people don't have clean drinking water. Water is the life source for everything that's on this planet. What have you found in the new technologies?

Bob: I did explore, and this goes back maybe about 5 years now, a special Russian technology, and we touched on it last week when Burt mentioned the Plasma Activated Water (PAW) http://abc4all.net/pawsummary2007.htm. Just a brief summary on that one. It involves working with high temperatures in the original years, and the water itself altered its own properties as a result of its being a cooling mechanism for the high temperature plasma properties that were used by the Russians, and in a period of 2-3 years that I have gotten to know the technology better, it has since evolved several times over, and the water now is processed through a cool temperature process, no longer having to use it for cooling down the heat in the plasma reactor itself. As a result of the refinements and the many introductions that were in the industry, we think we have a discovery that we think is worth letting the world know. In addition to that, it is helping to ionize the water as a result of using the plasma reactor tube. It's probably another term for high energy. So if there is a way that you can compact into a kind of a test tube, if you would, imagine a high electrical coil that will flash intermittently at very high speeds, and it creates an energy microenvironment for the water, and as it zips through there in a matter of just seconds, it is now reorienting the molecular structure of the molecules in the water and helping it become more monomolecular so that it is not clumping together or clustering together as ordinary faucet water.

Brian: Are the Russians using this water technology for their water sources?

Bob: I don't know for sure. I do know that when the Russians reorganized their whole country, a lot of the brain drain, if you would, left the country, so I think a lot of it has moved to and gravitated to other countries outside of Russia.

Brian: So where is Plasma Activated Water now? What phase is it in for becoming approved or part of our everyday opportunity?

Bob: I would say they are probably a year or 2 away from implementing a small practical system. Their forte is mostly in large industrial complexes. The world is very particular about how they energize or purify or cleanse their drinking water. I would say that with humanitarian funding in the background that could become a reality in less than 10 years for a whole municipality to adopt that technology. We just have to be very patient. Right now we are even looking at exploring other technologies that have been around even longer, for the last 30-40 years. The Japanese and Japanese-American collaboratives that have been observed and helped and formed to ionize water along similar lines that the PAW water, the Plasma Activated Water is also looked at, so the two are like cousins. That would be my best way to describe that they both take ordinary municipal ground water or tap water and they energize the water, to the degree that it is "living" water, so that water is more easily absorbed and utilized by the people and mammals that consume the water.

Brian: I'm curious. Have you ever had a study done with Plasma Activated Water and those people who energize their water or bless their water? As you see the molecular structure of water change, there have been a lot of studies done with people who pray or energize their water to be perfect for their bodies.

Bob: That's a great question. My varied readings of the different backgrounds, different organizations and the intensity, the power of prayer is just very, very powerful, and in a metaphysical sense, human intention is so focused and directed that there is a spirituality to water that we seldom talk about.

Brian: So has there been a study done? Or is that something you haven't thought of yet, to take a look at ordinary tap water, one that has gone through the plasma activated controls, and ordinary tap water that is simply energized? Dr. Emoto's done a lot of work out there in California.

Bob: Yes. I was just going to reference Dr. Emoto's work. He has been introduced, thanks to Burt, to the PAW water, and I think there are ongoing discussions that I am not current on right this second. But I do know that we are of the similar thinking and the fact that Dr. Emoto has pioneered in the last 5-10 years into the intention of water and the ability to take something and to make it better, just through our intentions. I'm just totally in awe.

Brian: The Alchemy of water !

Bob: Right.

Brian: What are some of the observations that have been made about the Plasma Activated Water when people drink that water?

Bob: A lot of the observations are that if there are any kind of pains that might be bothering an individual, this comes from third party as well as my own personal use of the water. You find that your body is probably more often than not dehydrated, and there are so many people who are so afraid of drinking any water, that sometimes they will just simply go with juices and other things that they think are hydrating them, but they are not really. The personal observation goes beyond that, too, in the area of just taking a study of maybe 2-3000 brands of water. Bottled water tends to be better because of its mineral content or any supplementation that might go with it. I do think that years ago, when we talk about the spa waters and mineral waters in France and elsewhere that we were actually letting our bodies receive certain minerals that have not been reintroduced for 100s of years just because of the way that we start to process waters in a modern society. Here we're looking for a balance that's needed. That balance has been something that has been missing, even in the food consumption and in the nutritional supplements that we augment just to try to make up for what's not in our soils.

Brian: Is the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) - who is it that oversees water purification systems and the approval of?

Bob: That's a really good question because the Drinking Water Quality Association oversees itself. It is not government regulated by OSHA and everyone else. They do require sanitization of the water, but they don't really rule on whether one is really better than the other. So we are pretty much left to consumer or buyer beware. So you really do have to find out what is in the label, what's in it, how the water was processed, how its bottled. Certainly the recent controversies over bottled water being not much different than tap water. A lot of this is just for you, the consumer, to take the full responsibility.

Brian: Not only that, a lot of the plastics used leach back into the water in bottled water.

Bob: We do have that big concern. The majority of it is because you leave it in sunlight or you leave it in a warm environment. There is some definite interaction. There is a lot less that goes on if it is fresh properly bottled water that is not sitting around for a year or 2 before it's consumed. So that I would tend to agree that that is a buyer beware checklist as well. Glass will be even better if you can store and keep glass bottles with the water. It becomes a little bit more of a handling challenge, but it definitely gets into the shipping weight that also can add price points.

Brian: So what is it that is stopping Plasma Activated Water from being processed right now and sold to people?

Bob: I think there is going to be an influx of humanitarian funding that is not too far away. A lot of it is just always funding to compete with hundreds if not dozens of other local water companies. I really feel that the technology is just about ready for mass production, but it is still a few years away from it being a municipal kind of a thing. But for the sake of people getting bottled water through PAW water, that could be just a year away. It can be done; it is just a matter of financing.

Brian: I see. We're going to get into ABC4All and find out what you are doing with that, and then we'll be joined by Linda Drake, which should be a wonderful segment. If you could just tell us what's happening with A Better Community for All on a worldwide or a global basis.

Bob: That is a phenomenon in and of itself. A Better Community for All (ABC4All) http://ABC4All.net has had a kind of a birthing of its own, going back approaching 10 years now. The whole idea there was the ability to empower communities, and we felt that all along that if we just simply gave permission to people just to go ahead and develop a leadership program within their own community that that would have a certain momentum, and lo and behold, as Burt has been the primary pioneer, and I have been kind of in the sidelines, I have sat back and observed a lot of great things happening with just the Somalia group that took on its own initiative and moved forward. In one of the most proud moments that I would have to reference is that we have two specially made shirts that are from Africa that were also given to Burt and myself. We have yet to wear them at the same place at the same time, but they are a special reminder that who knows what lurks out there in the different global community, because an idea is just something that is permission. As long as we gave permission to others who were viewing our site, they, too, have empowered themselves to go ahead and do things right in their own communities.

Brian: How many communities are you into?

Bob: My guess is, based upon the Taking IT Global community, that one has been part of the birthing of helping us identify, almost in a way prequalify leaders in their own community, and I think it is approaching 500 right now. We are probably in 80 different countries strong with various Mentors who are able to say, well I'd like to take a segment of that idea and bring it into their classroom or bring it into their community. So we are very happy to be aligned with them and, in a very short time, we are hoping to bring some additional monetary backing that will be just a matter of a year away or sooner. They can make the difference to say, "Now we have some grants that can also work in a micro loan type community. It is really not so much of a loan as it is one that can help empower you to do your vision or your dream.

Brian: How do people become members of ABC4All?

Bob: It's not very difficult. By going to Taking IT Global at http://takingitglobal.org, they will have a chance to share a little bit of their backgrounds, so that we have a way to kind of prequalify them for different community assignments or that we would challenge them, so that by going to the website itself, ABC4All, we've even had people do something as simple as light a candle, and you are part of the community. So we really don't have a high stringent requirement or prerequisite, just the fact that they are very sincere, and that they will communicate with us, and they will also take some of our general quarterly reports and build on those same ideas.

Brian: What are some of the projects that you have seen accomplished in different communities?

Bob: The one in particular with Somaliland is one that comes to mind most right now. It was one that was empowered by certain locals who felt that they could develop and annual event. They even went ahead, and Burt mentioned this last week, and developed scholarship programs for the students, and we are just sitting back in awe, looking at this and saying, "Well I guess a good idea can really go around the world," just as a shot that was fired that was heard around the world. It's the kind of thing that says, they have their permission, they have their project, and they have their wherewithal, and it didn't cost us a dollar. We just simply allowed it to be a forum that allowed them to receive and to give back their ideas and to share it on the web.

Brian: You know, I recognize that there are literally thousands and thousands of groups that have banded together, you know, A Better Community for All, Humanities Team, peace groups, a number of groups. How do you connect up with the other groups that are out there?

Bob: This would be part of a proactive board that we are forming as we speak. We are looking at ways to touch all 7 continents, on projects that will be talked about here in the next 1000 days. It is just quite a challenge that we set internally for Burt and myself is to kind of help grow these leaders in communities who will interact with more than just one continent at a time. Part of the policy making that will come about with us a founders and being able to say, well now we'd like to accelerate our program with the idea that there could be some "TechnoGiving" that would embrace and enhance it. Most recently, we shared this idea within our Board of Directors as well. What if we took on a goal that would empower a billion people contributing maybe $1 worth of their time and effort and to see if that would make a difference in the times that they would commit on a weekly or daily basis, even if it's just a conversation with a friend, just to say, "This would be something good for our community." So that's one way that we would like to see it implement is to begin to put some traction with the idea and that is to help funnel, maybe $1 a person, is a good way to budget something if we can touch a million people a year, our goal would then be $1 million to create the endowment fund of the new century.

Brian: You know, I see this project as a parallel project to the Universal Flag Companies, which really is creating the symbol, which is the first symbol that goes into every country and into every village and every community and allows for the oneness, the sign post of the knowledge of the truth of who we are, being one with everyone and everything, and if part of the challenge for all of us in our world today is to connect the dots. For so many years, we have had everyone, as you observed, working as individual groups, as individual communities and not recognizing that by sharing and by having a common thread of connection, that's how we start to change our world in a much bigger way. And so, in the end, it doesn't matter whether it's Humanity's Team or A Better Community for All or the Oneness Movement or any of the thousands of other movements, the one thing that connects us all is, the core aspect of who we are, and that would be the divine presence and emanation of the oneness of all things with our Creator. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Bob: Most definitely. It's kind of like we hadn't here in the last 2 months, and yet we feel like we're family and brothers. I really feel the kinship has always been there. We have had a tremendous opportunity to share this on the airwaves with your listeners. We have had a tremendous opportunity even unusual phone calls, in that we chose 070707 as a day of acknowledging this oneness and presence. For us to be up at 4 a.m. in the morning to talk to a friend on the East Coast was quite an experience, and yet realizing that there are 24 hour time zones all around the world. Even though we might like to think that 5 o’clock America time on the West Coast, it's also 8 a.m. China time. I have been working on some ideas that would empower our entrepreneurs in China to be mentored by some of our American counterparts and to develop friendships and relationships all within a manageable time zone. So definitely that oneness has become more and more prevalent in our formal consulting role as well as helping on charitable, community-based type of programs.

Brian: Certainly the Internet has allowed us the opportunity to become much closer. I'm a click away from anywhere in our world.

Bob: Most definitely. And because of the "TechnoGiving," component, we are not asking for a lot of money from any one person. We just simply want to know that if there is a brotherhood or a sisterhood of anything that has any meaning, a $10 or $12 contribution could also tap them right into a Toy Museum concept and through a common theme or thread. The Toy Museum is a passionate project that I've talked about in different circles, but it basically wasn't quite ready until later this year, and that's to unite people through just stories. Sharing a little bit of what was your favorite toy in your childhood or what was your favorite story or theme or some memorabilia that you still have in your closet or attic upstairs. Internet is so complex and also so simple that we are going to find that there are entrepreneurs who are going to day, "Well, I want to know more about that Toy Museum, and that is a project that we will touch, just like the water concept, it touches everybody, and there is some story that will be shared here very soon in the Toy Museum complex that we're proposing.

Brian: Well Bob, it is very clear that you are active on many fronts, and the key component is being in service to others, and you have done an incredible job with that. At this time, I'd like to bring Linda on to give you a little gift of spirit and tell you what your guides, angels and maybe some passed on loved ones have to say about you. Linda, welcome!

Linda: Thank you Brian. Thank you, Bob, for allowing me to be part of this. I have been so enthralled with this interview. Sometimes as individuals, we get so caught up with our lives, and we say we want to do something to help, but we don't know what to do. We don't know how to make a change, make a change in humanity, for humanity, a change in our world. Sitting back and looking at what you have done, it excites me. It excites me because this is something that we can do. It is not just setting on intent to change the world, but it is giving us hope that we each have the ability to do something, whether it's a small contribution or a large contribution or just reading more about it and understanding it. So that empowers our lives and empowers the project. It has been so interesting listening to you talk all about the different things that you have done with your life and how there was this magnificent plan laid out for you, and that plan began all the back at the birth of your daughter. There was no possible way that you could have known at the birth of your daughter how that was going to change your life and the lives of humanity. So I'm just always trying to point out to people how important our lives are. We can't always see how we touch people's lives, but you are doing it in such an amazing way, and it started in a very small point in your life and just began developing. Your guides - they were talking the whole time you and Brian were talking. And Brian, I must say that I have really enjoyed the interview because you have pulled it out in a way that helps me understand where he's coming from better. But Bob's guides were talking about how this was. When you were talking about your daughter, your guides kept pointing out to me, "See, this is how we started. This is how we began the process of his journey and what he was supposed to do. You knew, your higher self knew, when you were born what you were going to be doing, how you were going to change the world for humanity, and you've just been following this path. It's through the interaction that you've woven into your life, the interaction with different groups, different projects. But your guides are saying you always rush right in. You took hold of it. You took responsibility for it, and they said you've always had this enormous need to help people, to do more. You weren’t one of those to sit back and just think, oh yes, it would be good if I could do that. They're saying, you were always motivated to get up and get in there and make it work. And you went in so many different directions to do this. But they're saying, it was all the different directions that you went into and all the different lives that you connected with. It's like a drawstring that is now pulling everything together into a tight circle of what you are going to be creating at this time. Water is so very, very important for humanity. So they're saying that you've had that knowledge. You've had that deep within you, this knowledge that there is something that you are supposed to do with this. And then you were handed all of these different situations, and you put them all together, to create something that is going to make a major, major effect on humanity, not just the cleaning of water, purifying of water, but the empowerment of water to heal. They said you knew this all along. Deep seated within you, you knew that there was something more to this than what we just see on the surface of the importance of water in our lives. So they are saying you've done very, very well in listening to your spirit guides, listening to your higher self, as to what your purpose was into this world. You could have gone off in a totally different direction at many different times and not gotten to where you are at this time. It would have been quite easy for you to wander off because so many people were pulling you in different directions, because they saw your motivation. They saw your drive. They saw your intelligence in doing this, but you stayed focused on what was for the highest good of humanity. It was not even a financial greed that was within you to do this. It was always about something else, somebody else, the highest good for all, not for your individually. So your guides are applauding this and saying that you came in with such an intellect, an intelligence that would propel you forward into successfully attaining the success for humanity that you chose for this lifetime. You've done this without being selfish, selfish for your family, for yourself, but to put it out there, and so your guides are very, very proud of you. But also they said, we always knew that he could do this.

Bob: Thank you for sharing that. I am very much in total agreement that all of the voices, or all of the things that we feel are the guides that work with us - I have been an assistant pastor for well over 20 years and have often prayed for not just the little church that we talked about, but we were always on Sundays, praying for the whole world. It's kind of like it was a global ministry that began some 20 years earlier with senior citizens right here in Oakland, California, where I called our family the church, and the church became our family. As the seniors would pass on, I got to know them when they were 75, and they would go up to 80 or 90, and it's always been a blessing to know that because we ministered to a very select audience during that 20-year history, I pretty much ministered myself out of a job, in the sense that they all passed on and now they are with the Lord, and I realize that they taught me so much more than I taught them from the Bible or from Scriptures. So this has a very strong spiritual bent because the food missions that I was on was all about nourishing their bodies even though they were pretty much in the twilight of their life cycle. They are people who have done great things in China and things around the world, but yet they were part of a humble little church that taught me so much more. I thank you for that little gift of knowledge.

Brian: Linda, are any of those spirits wanting to say anything?

Linda: Many of those spirits are around him, and they continue to assist him. They're saying, it's not just the knowledge that they gave you at that time with the connection that you had at that time, it's the guidance. What they feel is most important is the guidance that they have each been able to give you from the other side and continue to give you, because this has now become their project of assisting with you. Of course, they have, each one, made their transition, and each one fulfilled their purpose here on earth, but this is a spiritual purpose for humanity, not just for themselves, but for humanity. I've got 7 different ones that are around me at this time. It's like they have come in to applaud and give their own praise for you for what you have given to humanity. The love - they are talking about not just what you have given monetarily, that is not important. It's the love and compassion that you have done your work with. I've got one man; his name is an "H." Once they cross over, they often don't have a connection to their name any more, but he is trying very hard to get across to me who he is. Was there an "H?" A man with an "H?" in the first or the last name?

Bob: I've known 50 or 100, so I'd have to...

Linda: Ok, then you probably wouldn't remember then. There are 7 significant ones that are right around, very closely to you that are kind of like they are your board to give you the guidance for this because this is a very big part of their purpose with you. They are saying they are still continuing to help you with the guidance. You are not doing it by yourself. They said as you pray, God says, ok, you go to work now, you help him do that. So they feel very privileged that God has given them, allowed them, to be a part of your purpose. Because your purpose is not you. They are saying your purpose is not you. It is global for all of the world, because what you are doing, the jobs, the projects that you are working on, it's not just about cleaning the water. Because this is going to be so significant for humanity. Some people can't see it. They are totally blinded to it. The significance that this is going to have for our survival, for humanity's survival. So many people can't see this. You are bringing it to light. They are helping you, they are assisting you to bring this to light. Not just the cleaning of the water, but the healing. It's the healing water that is going to be so, so very important for humanity also. I've got a man here that is insisting that he speak with you. He says he's family. He's a father figure, he says. It's jumping all over. I was using my pendulum to try to get information from him. His energy is so high that my pendulum is just jumping all over and spinning. He says father figure. I believe he was older when he died. He says grandfather. He says a grandfather figure that is really helping you. He is proud. But he is helping you also. He says they talk about you up there of how important you are and what you are doing. So he is also very proud. It's amazing. I hear that word, "proud," so often. Our guides, our loved ones and spirits, they are all so connected with us and the work that we are doing because we are still a part of them. They are a part of us. We are all such an important part of God. And so what one person does reflects on, it ripples back to the energy of all of creation. So when we do something that makes them proud, they want to say this. When we do something that is an achievement, they want to honor and acknowledge it. So he is also doing this. Was your grandfather not from this country?

Bob: I probably didn't know my grandfather, because my dad is in his 90s right now, and that's part of my missing past, because I do want to get reconnected back to China. My father grew up in a rural country. He was a farmer. He comes from a farming background, and he has agriculture in his livelihood, working with Chevron and working with Ortho, working with the chemicals, etc., when I was just a young individual. What I would like to relate to is that the water is a tremendous challenge and accomplishment because I don't know the name of the Japanese company, but the Japanese company is now the water sponsor for the Olympics. Once you know the pronunciation of the term, it is a very similar water that I've studied for well over 10 years, and it is the type of water that is ionization, what we call structured water, the fact that we shouldn't just take water for granted, that's the main theme. They are the corporate sponsors for the Olympics 08/08/2008. So we're talking less than 8 months away as something that will definitely be known to the whole world that they have bottled water that is superior to a lot of the other brands that are out there. It is the kind of water that is life-giving. It's the kind of water that we should all look at. Even as I reflect on one of the commercials I heard from your station as well, that running water through ceramics and through the earth is a special way to bless the water. There is so much that can be embraced. I don't know the exact brands, but just knowing that the process is so close to the filtration of nature, and if you can stay back with the electrolysis of water, and the fact that by having water spin and going through different vortices, you are getting the healthiest water on earth, because it's closest to nature. The technology with the Russians, the Germans, the Japanese and the Americans working in cooperation have brought to me a clear understanding that water is really something that can be monitored, it can be something that is blessed through spirit, and it can be something that is very much the closest to the healing waters that are going to touch the whole world. I am just happy to be part of it.

Linda: Well they are saying that there is going to be a large monetary support coming to you in the very, very near future.

Brian: Good news, Bob!

Linda: It appears like this is a large corporation or - no - I think it's more of an individual who sees the importance of what you are doing, hears the importance of what you are doing and begins investigating it closer and contributes greatly to your project, not to one singular project, but they are saying the entire project based on the water.

Bob: That is good news. I do know of several stepping up to the plate to help us in terms of the light rail, in terms of humanitarian projects and we call it, truly, infrastructure that we have been committed to helping.

Brian: Well this is all great news Bob! We have reached the end of our show. On behalf of Linda and all of our listeners, I want to thank you for all the great work that you are doing. I want to empower you to continue on to do the great work to help all of us as we change our world.