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ABC4All Co-Founders

Burton Danet, Ph.D. and Robert "Bob" Chew
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Burt is a retired psychologist and Bob has been a lifetime entrepreneur.
Together they have created a grass roots movement that is sweeping across our world, opening up opportunities for humanitarian relief wherever it is needed.


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Brian:  Hello.  This is your host, Brian McClure, and welcome to "A Call to Consciousness."

 

Brian: This show is brought to you by The Universal Flag Companies.  The Universal Flag and symbol represents the oneness of everyone and everything.  According to the 2006 United Nations Human Development Report, 1.1 billion people lack access to an improved water supply.  That is approximately 1/6 of our world's population.  2.6 billion people in our world lack access to improved sanitation.  Every day, a child dies from a water-related disease every 15 seconds.  That is every day, 365 days a year.  According to the World Health Organization's 2003 World Health Report, water-related diseases are the leading cause of death for children under age 5.  As humans we can live weeks without food, but only days without water.  In many developing countries, millions of women and children spend many hours a day collecting water from distant and often polluted sources.  Compare that with the fact that as average Americans, we use between 100 to 176 gallons of water per day individually, and then you start to get the picture of the inequity that is present in our world.  The Universal Flag and symbol is a signpost that allows us to remember the core truth of our oneness and interdependence with everyone.  When we finally wake up and remember that when any one being suffers from not having proper drinking water or sanitation, no matter where they are in our world, it affects all of us, and then all of our lives will change. I can tell you this, if it was my child or if it was your child who needed drinking water to survive, and they were half way around the world, we would rid ourselves of all our material possessions at any cost to assure that our child would have a happy and healthy life.

 

Brian:  Please join the thousands of other Universal Flag Team Members around our world and spread your Universal Flag or symbol to all.  When we remember our oneness, we will no longer have half of our population at risk.

 

Brian:  Today on "A Call to Consciousness," we are very pleased to have the 2 Co-Founders of A Better Community for All (ABC4All), Dr. Burt Danet and Bob Chew.  Burt is a retired psychologist and Bob has been a lifetime entrepreneur.  Together they have created a grassroots movement that is sweeping across our world and opening up opportunities for humanitarian relief wherever it is needed.  Burt and Bob, Welcome to the Show!

 

Burt:  Thank you very much, Brian.  What a special opportunity this is!

 

Brian:  Well it's great to have you guys on.  Before we start talking about A Better Community for All and what the 2 of you are currently up to, I’d like for you to give us some background about yourselves.  Tell us where you grew up, and tell us about some of the life obstacles and challenges that you have faced.  Burt why don't we start with you.

 

Burt:  Now why did I have the hunch that you might do just that?

 

Brian: (laughing) Because that's me.

 

Burt:  Brian, I would very much appreciate it if I were to take the liberty to maybe do a little bit of an introduction of my own, and I'm going back to 12/09/07 which is a little more than 6 months ago.

 

Brian:  Sure.

 

Burt:  I wrote you an email, and in it, I said:

 

From: ABC4All [mailto:abc4all (at) gmail (dot) com]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2007 06:00 PM
To:
onewithall (at) universalflag (dot) com
Subject: Fwd: A Better Community for All (ABC4All)

Brian D. McClure http://www.universalflag.com/

 

Hi Brian,

 

Your Flag would be so appropriate to share on ABC4All.  Please also consider ABC4All as a truth resource to add to your links.  If you give permission, it would be of interest to use the image of the flag as well as the presentation (or a link to the presentation on your site).  Many thanks for considering this and for your OUTSTANDING work.

 

AMAZING.  MOVING.  SO RIGHT.

 

Burt

Burton Danet, Ph.D., Clinical Psychologist (retired), Co-Founder, ABC4All

 

Burt:  And perhaps, Brian, you want to let us know how you responded to this?

 

Brian:  I gave you permission.  Of course, we join with every group that is trying to promote the wholeness, the oneness in our world, and A Better Community for All certainly stands for that, and the ball started rolling from there, Burt.

 

Burt:  Well what is so amazing is not only did you give permission, but you allowed for what you termed, "carte blanche" for ABC4All to go with what it was that might create synergy between A Better Community for All and The Universal Flag Companies, and of course, so much has transpired since then.  We're not going to be able to go over all of it, but I just wanted to highlight a couple of things. 

 

First of all, it only took from December 9, that original email, till the last week in December and the first week in January when you so kindly offered and gave us an invitation to speak on "A Call to Consciousness" the first time.  Of course, those 2 interviews, 1 of myself and 1 of Bob, each an hour long, and of course, the information that is in those interviews involved a great deal of information about our personal backgrounds and how we got from where we were to where we are today, etc.  Anyone who's really interested can go back and look at some of that history, because we have the links to the first interviews on the Internet called, "New Era for Healing:" http://abc4all.net/neweraforhealing.htm And here are the links to today's show:

 

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Show 7 - June 21, 2008

 

 

 

Show 7 - June 21, 2008
A Conversation With Burton Danet, Ph.D.

Burton Danet, Ph.D., is a retired Clinical Psychologist and Co-Founder of; A Better Community For All (ABC4All). Together with ABC4All Co-Founder, Bob Chew, he has been developing the concepts of ABC4All with the Mission of "Maximizing Charitable Contributions on and off the Internet." "ABC4All WorldSolutions" provide opportunities to reach unimagined "Health Heights." A healthier water and application of advanced energy technologies bring the potential for humanitarian relief wherever it is needed throughout the world in emergent/non-emergent situations. Dr. Danet shares a dramatic reversal of progressive deterioration and failing health, having spent more than 38 years in a "lifetime of rehabilitation."
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We also have a very special opportunity because from then till now, it has been absolutely extraordinary what has unfolded.  You know, and I know and Bob knows what has transpired, but we'll try to clue in the listeners a little bit to see if there isn't a way to perhaps give a hint about what is transpiring. 

 

So along the way, because of all the dynamics of what was unfolding, Bob and I chose to create a special award for Brian D. McClure, and that award is called the "ABC4All Humanitarian of the Year 2008 Award,"

http://abc4all.net/hoty2008.htm

 

We gave that to you and sent it to you, and now it is posted on the Internet, and if people go to ABC4All.net, they can look for that link, or they can go to what is termed "Quick Links" http://abc4all.net/quicklinks.htm and see that link and others that we are going to be talking about some of them today.

 

I just wanted to underscore that the symbol of that humanitarian award is a very small token of appreciation for what it is that is unfolding across the world as a result of what I termed, "Collaboration" between UFC and ABC4All.  Because of that collaboration now, we have rather incredible information to share, and it's been a very extraordinary and heartening experience to see how you have actually put our Mission and Vision into high gear.  Literally when we started out with you, we were, I think at that time, it says we were at 455 ABC4All Mentors in 86 countries.  From then till now, 6 months later, we are at 603 Mentors in 97 countries. So if you can imagine, if that can happen in 6 months, what's going to happen in 6 years?  The issues and concerns, Brian, that you just outlined are related specifically to water, but we all know that water is one of the most important considerations along with shelter, food and right now there is a huge crisis of food shortage in this world of ours, including the fact that 33 countries have been identified as having significant shortages.  So I would say, then, that the critical information that is available to us now is more important than ever, and I just want to be in a position here at the outset to thank you so much for what you are doing in the world and for the kind of support that you have lent to A Better Community for All because now this collaboration that we have together is going to help create the humanitarian relief that you point out is so desperately needed by so many people in the world.

 

Brian:  Well thank you so much for your kind regards, Burt.  I really appreciate it.  Certainly we collectively and together with literally millions of other groups around our world, are connecting through the Universal Flag symbol which really transcends all other symbols of separation into that symbol of oneness and allows us to start to bring together the resources and the commonality of all cultures and all groups.  As you just stated, in 97 countries now, which means that the Universal Flag has expanded into those areas too, it is just a matter of time, when we start to bring the resources to the knowledge that we already have and the knowledge that we have in being able to feed our world, and to allow others to find the way to feed themselves and to find the drinking water and all of the things that we take for granted. 

 

Brian: You know, it's interesting.  Today I had to disconnect my water filtration system in my sink in order to have it reset, and just one day without having filtered water, and you would have thought that it had been 2 years.  I had to go back to drinking out of the faucet, and I started thinking about the people around the world that I know for a fact have to walk 10 miles just to find water that isn't even purified. 

 

Burt:  Exactly.

 

Brian:  Compare that to the fact that it takes about 4-5 gallons of water per individual per day, and you know that there are people who literally spend their entire days trying to gather water for their families and for themselves, from morning till dark, every day, 365 days a year. 

 

Burt: It's not just a concern for what some people refer to as "underdeveloped countries."  Here in the US, for example, Dr. Rhonda Hackett who is a philanthropist in Denver, Colorado has disclosed to me that that Colorado River which is polluted, has homeless people drinking and bathing in the same water.  So these issues and problems are not restricted to the countries other than the US or whatever.  We have underdeveloped conditions in this country, so it's every country in the world that has such concerns, and quite frankly, it isn't just the level or quality of the water, it's also the kinds of degradation we're facing every day just because our planet has been so abused, and that is exactly what I hope we can cover some tonight, in terms of the fact that we happen, at ABC4All, to be very blessed and privileged to have been exposed to information and to technologies that are very advanced and that can actually bring the kind of relief that you are talking about.

 

It sounds like a very huge and daunting task to struggle to bring Global Humanitarian Relief.  That sounds like it's an impossible task, but you know what?  It's not impossible!  It is definitely doable, and we have the light at the end of the tunnel!  We call it going "From the Dark to the Hope."  It's just incredible in terms of what we can accomplish if, in fact, we receive the proper support.

 

Brian:  Bob, could you tell us about what A Better Community for All is, so that our listeners know?

 

Bob:  We've used that anachronism, ABC4All, A Better Community for All, it is really what the constituents and the listeners define.  We are just amazed at how this has taken grounding in other countries.  We really let them define that mission, that purpose.  We became kind of the structure of the catalyst, if you would, to embrace those concepts in other countries, third world countries included, and really it came from Partnerships for a Better Community for All which Burt had previously founded before I met up with him 10 years ago. 

 

Brian:  Your phone is breaking up a little bit, your connection, Bob.

 

Bob:  Ok.

 

Brian:  Burt, why don't you tell us the countries and some of the projects that are going on today with A Better Community for All.

 

Burt:  Yeah, that's a really difficult question to answer, because the dynamics of what is unfolding are really humungous.  Since we are in so many different countries, we have some of the ABC4All Mentors as they are termed, Mentors just learn from each other, and that's the way we are putting it.  It's like we're all teaching each other how better to create communities that maybe can help everybody who is alive in that community.  One of the most dramatic examples occurred even before we began to create what is called, Local ABC4All efforts in different communities throughout the world. In this particular country, which is Somaliland, there was an effort to create what they termed, and this is all coming from them.  It's their idea.  They bounced off of ideas that were put forth on the A Better Community for All website.  They created what they called, "Local ABC4All Community Empowerment Day." 

http://abc4all.net/abc4allsomalia.htm

 

That was an all-day event that held, and they have now created it in terms of its being an annual event, and as a result of the first time that it was held, would you believe that 22 scholarships for children were donated not just for that year, but every year from now on.  So here is an example of a country that took it upon themselves to go with these concepts and to try to come up with a way of succeeding, and look what they accomplished in their own community.  That is such a good example of what it is that can happen anywhere in the world.

 

Brian:  So what does A Better Community for All empower the mentors to do?

 

Burt:  Well first of all, just by thinking about the question.  We don't answer the question.  We ask it.  "What would make your personal community better for all?"  And of course, that's a wonderful question to pose because there is no one answer to it.  Everybody kind of like has their own answer, and many of them have sent in their ideas, and those ideas are posted on a web page that's called "Building Better Communities" or BBC at http://abc4all.net/bbc.htm. Anyway everyone has their own view of what it is that it would take to make their local community better for all.  But once you start thinking about it, that's a kind of action.  So that's the beginning.  Some mentors are more active than others.  However, some of them have been extraordinarily active.  A very good example would be the country of Uganda.  You send the flag to several of the mentors in Uganda, and we have gotten just incredible feedback which includes pictures, and it includes statements, and some of those have been posted at the web page at A Better Community for All which is http://ABC4All.net/universalflag.htm.  If you go there, you see a lot of what I'm discussing here right now, but there is in particular one quote I want to repeat here which is from Mike in Uganda: This is what Mike has said.  He said,

 

"From Mike Sekitoleko (Uganda):  "The Universal Flag received is beginning to sweep people in the community off their feet. Small grass roots organizational heads with whom I have shared the news of the Universal Flag are already loving the idea and can't hide the fact that they miss it. Many of these organizations do not have flags of their own, but what is most interesting is that the Universal Flag is blended beautifully with bright colors that correspond with the colors of  many of these organizations. They would like to use the Universal Flag as their own, that is when they get their own."

 

What a perfect way to describe all this.

 

Brian:  Absolutely.  Well, there is no doubt that as communities come together and do the simple act of starting to think about what they could do, or if each of us as individuals start to think about what we can do to improve the lives of our community, for ourselves and our neighbors, we get outside of the thinking of just ourselves, and we become in service to others, and that can't help but have an effect of changing our world.  So our theme tonight is a little bit about water, and Burt, for those who don't know, you spent 38 years where you had a very difficult time with your health, and in fact, as you stated in our other interview, you were on your way out of this world, back in, was it in 2003?

 

Burt:  Exactly.  That was when the last picture of my driver's license was taken,

 

 

and if anyone looks at that picture, you can see that there's a very ill person, who was fighting off 15 medical diagnoses http://abc4all.net/guiness.htm, many of which doctors claim cannot be reversed.  Then, lo and behold, after about an 8-year relationship with our dear friend, Bob Chew http://abc4all.net/bc.htm, who is on the line with us, he had some contact with a Russian Team of scientist and engineers who were working in a physics laboratory here in Southern California. http://hydroent.com  What he had heard about was the fact that they had accidentally discovered through their experiments using water to cool down really hot plasma experiments.  I'm talking 4000 to 10,000 degrees.  

 

They began to notice that the properties of this water that was used to cool down the experiments was rendered certain beneficial properties.  So they began to study the properties of the water.  That is not their main focus.  Their main focus was other matters, and so this became almost a sideline but a really important one for them.  They did a whole bunch of studies and put it to systematic test with independent laboratory testing, and also studied 30 properties of the water.  What they began to discover was rather astonishing.  It was like nothing anyone had every heard about before, really.  What they discovered, for example, was that they could control the pH of the water.  If people don't know what pH is, very simply it's a scale goes from very low, which is about 2, all the way up to 14, and 7 being the middle point.  It's a scale of acidity or alkalinity..  So that at the low end of the scale, it's very high in the acid quality, at the high end of the scale it's very high in the alkaline quality.  It turned out that the 2.5 pH Plasma Activated Water (PAW) became both an anti-infecting and antibacterial, antiviral agent.  So that, for example, if they took sewage water from a treatment plant, can you imagine any more filthy water than sewage water that has billions of bacteria in it?

 

Brian:  No.

 

Burt:  And they put it through the reactor, and lo and behold, the water does not touch anything.  All it does is that it passes by, next to this plasma tube, and the gases inside the tube cause it to change its properties, change its structure, and what came out was water that was verified by independent laboratory testing as being antiviral and antibacterial, killing literally billions of bacteria, which of course, the people at the sewage plant couldn't believe their eyes.  So they kept repeating it, and sure enough, the same findings kept occurring, and that's really what happened in all of the work that they did before anyone took it internally, any human being drank it.  You don't need to have anyone drink it in order to know that this is going to rescue people in the world.  For example, the problems that we have right now with regard to contaminated tomatoes in this country, or contaminated spinach with E. coli in the past.  Or problems with the Avian Flu.  Or problems with SARS.  It goes on and on.  You can name any of these problems that exist in the world.  The most prominent one in our country right now is MRSA - methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus - a superbug that will not respond to antibiotics.  It's killing people.  More peopled died in the US in the last year than AIDS from MRSA.  That is the state of affairs of our world, Brian.  And that is the state of affairs that collectively, if we, again, achieve the proper support, we are going to be able to turn the tide, and we are going to be able to render unnecessary those kinds of plagues.

 

Brian:  You know, Burt, I think that the real key behind this is that the Plasma Activated Water gave you a dramatic reversal of your progressive deterioration and failing health and put you back onto a very healthy plane where you were at times bedridden and could not walk and now you walk for miles, and that was really your first eye opener into what this water can do when a human actually takes it. http://abc4all.net/before_after.htm And you have countless numbers of people who have taken this water who have testified to its healing properties, haven't you.

 

Burt;  Exactly. It's been shipped all over the country and into Canada.  We're not able to ship it, unfortunately, elsewhere, but it's a prototype in a laboratory.  Right now it's not available anywhere.  However, because of the extraordinary results that so many people are having, we have literally been granted with, blessed with unlimited access to this water, so we are able to share it with persons in our network, and of course, we have received, not just from myself and my wife the kinds of dramatic reversals, total rejuvenation.  http://abc4all.net/pawquickreview.htm

 

 

I mean we had to create new terms.  Bob Chew can tell us about "The Path of 8 Petals." http://abc4all.net/8petals.htm , which is the paradigm of health that he has created that, gives the context within which we then traced the observations that we were noticing as a result of our consuming the water.  We have now been consuming it for 4 years, and during that period of time, we noticed, for example, that there were inadequate words to describe what was unfolding.  So we created the first term, which is "Unimaginable Health Heights."  When you're suffering from 15 diagnoses, and when you are being given antibiotics for this infection and that infection and no longer are working, and when you literally can't breathe and are having trouble struggling to walk half a block, you can't do it, and when you're fainting, and going on and on with these conditions that were not reversing but were only getting worse and were deteriorating and were no longer responding to any of the extensive rehabilitation efforts that I had made over the years, obviously you could not find a more concerning situation.  Well, 12-24 hours after I began drinking this water, it was like total reversal of some of these difficulties I was experiencing.  I couldn't believe it.  So the history and the recording of this first led to "unimaginable health heights," which we never dreamed could be achieved.  Then it turned out that, over the longer run, that was not sufficient to describe what was happening, because it kept getting better.  So the second term that was created was called, "Improvements Upon Improvements" or IUI.  And when that turned out to be insufficient to describe this amazing phenomenon, then we went to what my wife and I now term, "Benchmark Comparisons."  What does that mean?  It means that we are able to do things now that we couldn't do 6 months ago or a year ago or whatever.  We go for walks now together, and when I see her stride and I see how she walks, I can't believe who she is. She was predicted to go into a wheelchair.  I have been her sole caretaker four times, for 4-6 weeks at a time, 4 different times in our marriage.  That's who she has been.  Not now.  She's a totally different person.

 

Brian:  That is an amazing story.  We're going to take a quick break here.  Our guest today, Dr. Burt Danet, Bob Chew from A Better Community for All.  Stay tuned.

 

Brian:  Welcome back to A Call to Consciousness.  This is Brian McClure, your host.  Our guest today, Br. Burt Danet and Bob Chew.  Bob, could you tell us about the healing properties of water?  I know for the past 30 years, you have been a student of water, starting with a search for healthier water for your daughter's formula when she was born. I know that different types of water that you've told me about hold better properties than the tap water we drink.

 

Bob:  Yes, Brian. The research on water goes back, probably to the turn of the century, and a lot of the waters that were taken for granted in terms of tap water, faucet water, you're really looking at 2 elements.  That would be the chlorine and ammonia that are the only 2 chemicals that are brought in to help sanitize the drinking water.  For a majority of the time, that is a very good way to disinfect water.  The healthiest water, the healthy water that we ascribe to if we were to term waters being organic, we would be looking at a way to get the water back to its most pristine nature.  One way to think of it is a mountain top spring that is going to furnish all kinds of little swirls of water that's going to be rotating and bouncing off of the rocks and down certain creeks and then into some bigger waterways.  Ultimately what you've got there is water that has been very much so hydrogenated water, or so that it has gotten a mixture of all the gases, the H2O, and it's optimal that it will also interact with the minerals.  Ultimately what we have here, PAW water, being a kind of extreme example of what energy has been put back into the water, you have water that is going to be basically somewhat monomolecular in structure, which means that it is going to permeate and move just normal osmosis through the cells.  So in a short phrase, you might say that the water is a little bit slippier, and it can help reach the farthest cells in the body, from the tip of your toes to even the inner cells of the brain and realize that hydration is so important. 

 

Brian:  That is something that actually we haven't really spent enough time educating people about water.  I talked to one of the Russian scientists about this water, and he told me that he did a study of 20 different types of bottled waters.  It was the first time that I had ever heard that most of the bottled water that we drink doesn’t have any type of minerals in it.  It really doesn't do as much good for us as we may think that it does.

 

Bob:  You're so right. The mineral content is really a bond or carrier.  In fact, ionized water is exactly what we are describing.  It carries an electrical charge because of its ability to absorb dissolved minerals.  So, without getting too technical, the whole idea here is that there is a balance in the water.  Somehow the PAW water, as we call it, Plasma Activated Water carries that certain balance and I'm not faulting a lot of your municipal sources of water, because they do deliver, pretty much of an alkaline water somewhere in the 7 range, and its dissolved solids are probably well within 500 parts per million, and that is just a general classification or regulation of dissolved solids.  Your fresh water, bottled water, tends to stay in that normal range, but it's just the energy that Burt has attributed to this that really makes it exceptional.

 

Brian:  Now there are also some other types of water out there.  I saw that in China where the Olympics are going to be, there is a sponsor, a water source that is a sponsor of the Olympics.  Do you know anything about that water?

 

Bob:  Yes, I don't even know the proper pronunciation, but it is a form of ionized water.  You are so right, because it has come forward from Japan.  Your German, Russian and Japanese technologies have all been interacting in this big arena, because they are really looking at this superior water to hydrate the human body.  The corporate sponsor paid X millions to be able to bring it forward on a conscious level, just to let people know that as you visit Beijing, China this coming summer, just about a month or so away, and realize that a lot of the water has been taken like you said earlier, just for granted, and the fact that there is just easily 2-3,000 different types of bottled water throughout the world.  So you can take your pick!

 

Brian:  Burt, there are a number of sources in our world that are working to help alleviate the problems that we have with water.  What’s holding back PAW water from developing systems in third world countries right now?

 

Burt:  It's just a matter of achieving the kind of support to create the kind of relief that we are talking about.  That could be investment by business people, it can be humanitarian funding.  We are seeking every avenue that is possible to consider in terms of seeing what the most efficient way it will be that we are going to be able to bring this water to the world. 

 

One of the most significant advances lately has been that, not only are we sharing this water with quite a number of people, but we've also sent it to a laboratory in Pennsylvania.  It's the laboratory of Dr. Rustum Roy, who is one of the featured scientists in a recent documentary called, "Water."  He was very receptive when he heard about Plasma Activated Water.  He asked to receive a shipment of it, and we have since sent them several shipments they are studying in their laboratory.  There are conversations going on now between Dr. Roy and Dr. George Paskalov, who is the Chief Scientist of this team that created this accidentally discovered water.  That is a very significant advance because Dr. Roy is considered one of the most prominent people in the world who are studying water.  He is totally understanding and supporting of the concept of Global Humanitarian Relief.  He wants to support what it is that we are going to be able to unfold in the world. There is one example of what is happening. 

 

There is another one that I can quickly mention, Brian, and that is right now, not only are we poised for Global Humanitarian Relief, as it's termed, but we are actually poised to do a very specific study, an experiment in Detroit, Michigan.  We have one of our partners at ABC4All, called Enlightened Health Corporation.  It's a nonprofit that's been around for a number of years, and we've been working together for quite some time, and one of the phenomena that Enlightened Health is bringing to the table is that they have united with UrbanFarming.org.  The 2 groups are now going to create what is called, "Gardens in Detroit." http://abc4all.net/worldsolutions.htm

 

 

 

Those gardens will have not only Plasma Activated Water available to them to nourish the garden, which of course, has been proven over and over again that when you provide Plasma Activated Water to tomatoes or any other plants, the growth is significantly greater, and the result, the produce, is significantly better.  But we also have another technology, which is equally important which is called, "Magna Verna."  It’s at a website called, http://superabsorbent.com This Magna Verna is nothing more than a starch, it's an organic, all natural, starch product which actually if you were to eat it, it wouldn't hurt you.  However, there is an amazing demonstration that can take place. 

 

If you take a tablespoon of this starch, and you put it in a glass, and you add 10 ounces of  water, you watch that Magna Verna absorb every bit of the water, so quickly, within a matter of minutes, an then it becomes like a gel.  If that Magna Verna is added to soil anywhere in the world, including desert sand, guess what is going happen.  Not only is the agriculture going to be possible with the yield greater, by 10-35%, but also it's going to require 50% less water to do the same job.  So now, for the first time in history, we are privileged to be able to bring the Plasma Water and the Magna Verna together into the Gardens in Detroit that are going to be created at Highland Park.  It's a city within a city in Detroit, and that is pending.  Right now we have the development of that study going on.  We're looking forward very much to seeing, because both of those technologies independently have been shown to improve agricultural yield.  What happens when we bring them together?

 

Brian:  So let me break this down to a layman's term question.  You're saying that if you add the organic starch, a tablespoon of that...

 

Burt:  No, not a tablespoon.  That is the demonstration.  You add it to any soil, in whatever amount that is appropriate. 

 

Brian:  I see.  So you are going to add it to the soil, then you take the Plasma Activated Water which carries a great mixture of minerals and vitamins in it, and that will be absorbed by the plant, and it should grow at a faster rate or it should grow where it is very difficult to grow plants?

 

Burt:  Exactly all of that.  We have actually documented with just the Plasma water alone, and we've documented the superior growth with just the addition of the Magna Verna alone, but the Magna Verna can also be infused with not pesticides, not with fertilizers that are chemicals, but rather natural ways of inducing the plants to become better for us to consume and to have significantly improved yield.  So that for example, you talked about feeding the world early in our radio show today, but that is not a highfalutin term.  That is a real possibility because if you were to think about farmers anywhere in the world, achieving a 10-35% increase in yield, what would happen if they donated 1$ or 2% of the profits from that to Global Humanitarian Relief.  Do you see the picture of how we can go around the world and restore health to everybody?

 

Brian:  Actually with what you've described, I can see the ability for people who have never farmed in their lives, because they don't have the enriched soils and the opportunity of potentially having the right amount of water to become farmers and to feed their families. 

 

Burt:  That is true, and it can occur even in desert areas and we can stop relying even on well water.  You know one of the major solutions that has been promoted in so many different areas is to create wells.  While that is a great and noble cause, unfortunately because of the contamination in so many of the areas of the world, in some those wells, the water gets contaminated.  It leaches into the water, so that the water in those wells becomes contaminated, no matter how you might want it to be appropriate for human consumption.  However, any source of water in the world, no matter how polluted, nor no matter how pristine, you put it into the plasma reactor, and what comes out?  The same beneficial, extraordinarily healing water that we are becoming aware of by virtue of what happens when humans drink it.  We don't make any claims.  We are not going to tell you that this water is going to be beneficial to you in any way, but when people drink it, they come back with these amazing stories some of which are chronicled on the Internet website that they gave me permission to do.

 

There is a web page of quick links.  It's called, http://abc4all.net/pawquickreview.htm  That particular web page contains some of the links of what we are talking about here tonight.

 

Brian:  So as you take A Better Community out to the world, how can we, how can any of the listeners, facilitate getting Plasma Activated Water.  I assume that facilities would have to be built in other parts of the world.  Is there anything other than the funding that is stopping that from being acted on today?

 

Burt:  It's really a matter of garnering the resources that would make it possible to bring it out of its prototype stage in the laboratory and create a way to reproduce this water.  In the prototypes, they've created reactors, several of them, one of which does maybe 60 gallons an hour, but they have another one that does 5000 gallons an hour.  They can take this reactor anywhere in the world, run it even without electricity, it can be run by a generator.  So you can go to any disaster zone in the world like a tsunami or like the current flooding in the Midwest in our country, or the cyclone that occurred in Burma not too long ago, or other natural disasters that we can fight, and you can bring this reactor right there in the middle of all of that polluted water, and you can start to create water that you and I can get healthy on.

 

Brian:  Burt, how expensive would it be to take that to Iowa where they just had tremendous flooding, or Wisconsin where a dam broke and an entire town was gone, and all of that water had all kinds of infection.

 

Burt:  That is a good question.  What would it take to do it for a community?  I don't know if Bob wants to comment on that, but we've been given a quote from the scientists that if, for example, and this is just a very gross guestimate, it's not literally related yet to the cost of parts and what not, but if we were to ask the question, what would it take to have a unit in your home?  For example, you Brian, in your home, you talked about having a unit in your home that filters water in your house.  If we were to create a reactor, we would be talking maybe in terms of $2000.  But that's just a rough estimate, and we're talking also going all the way around the world with this so it's a humungous task, but it's not one that we're going to be daunted by.  In fact the principals of this company gave me permission to put this pledge out onto the Internet which says that when we can develop proper support to get this out to the world, there is a pledge to create a PAW station every 400 miles, no  matter where you are in the world, which again, sounds like a very unrealistic goal, but maybe it won't happen in my lifetime, maybe it'll happen in the next generation’s lifetime or grandchildren's lifetime. But it can happen. What will make it happen, you ask?  The answer is, recognize the information, if you feel the information is going to help you and others in your community, then ACT!  You know how to reach us.  You know how to reach Brian McClure who is with the Universal Flag Companies.  You know how to reach Burt Danet and Bob Chew at ABC4All.  We have a website. We have an email address.  We are accessible!

 

Brian:  Burt and Bob, we are going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back with you.

 

Brian:  It really seems to me that one of the ways to get attention with Plasma Activated Water is to actually show up at some of these catastrophic sites.  If there is the opportunity to do that and to change over to the 5000 gallons per hour one, because right now, when a catastrophic event takes place, we ship water in from everywhere.  We're talking in every country we do that.  And to be able to go right to that location and set something up.  I don't know how much it would cost to set up a temporary station and activate it, but certainly that would glean worldwide attention and could really put a focus on the great potential that this research has shown.

 

Burt:  That is something that would be doable.  It would just be a matter of sitting down with the scientists and with the principals of the company and seeing what it would take in order to create the support that would allow such an event to occur.  Even the reactor now has been brought to some other locations for demonstration purposes, either in this country or even in another location in the world.  So that yes, that could be done, and of course, the reactor now is about to be brought to Detroit. So there is an example of where it will be brought into a local community. Water will be created that can be used to feed those gardens.  We'll see the results.  There's already documentation by independent studies that shows the results. We're just going to put it together with the Magna Verna for the first time.  Urban Farming as I understand it, has already been using the Magna Verna in lots of gardens, some of which are in Detroit.

 

Brian:  They are going to have the Universal Flag there, aren't they, Burt?

 

Burt:  I think that Kathy Merholz who is the Executive Director already received hers. We'll find out more.

 

Brian:  That's good.  We'll get her one to put up right at that site because that really is the message that we want to send.

 

Burt:  Absolutely.

 

Brian:  The change that we want to see in the world.  It doesn't supercede any other symbol or flag that represents a country, but it certainly allows for an expansion of the knowledge of a greater being, the great spiritual beings that we all are.

 

Burt:  One of the things that I didn't say at the beginning which really is quite amazing, is that one of the phenomena of the dynamics of what's unfolded since we began working together is that you at your Company have pledged to send and ship free a Universal Flag to 500 ABC4All Mentors.  That has been part of what has produced some of this dynamic acceleration of our mission.  So putting us together, your companies and A Better Community for All, I can't even imagine a better combination because it is so utterly appropriate.  The Universal Flag does represent the truth of who we are.  Of course, we're referring to it as, it's called, the ABC4All / Celebration of Oneness Movement or ABC4All/COO Movement.  http://abc4all.net/coomovement.htm  

 

That occurred back in 12/2006 when we were at a 2-day event called, "CELEBRATION OF ONENESS," and then the nonprofit involved back then gave us permission to use that term.  So, yes, we're creating a ONENESS Movement, but there are thousands of oneness movements all over the world now.  It's called, "The Shift."  There is a ShiftMovie that any of us can watch.  That's on our website also. It's called the "Two-Step Shift" because there's other information about statistics that we can look at.  That becomes what's called, the "ABC4All Dance."  We can actually dance all around the world and look at all these problems, but the question is, what are we going to do about it?  That is the position that A Better Community for All is taking.  It's called, "MANDATED ACTION for What The World Needs Now."  There's no stopping  what's needed now.  It's relentless.  We're going to continue this.  We are going to go forward, and we are going to bring the healing that we know is possible in our world.

 

Brian:  To your point, Burt, about the thousands of other groups, oneness groups around the world, and certainly there are, there is a meeting of one of those groups on the 29th from 10-12 at Laguna Beach.  It’s going to be a prayer service for healing the world, and Universal Flag will be there.  The founder wrote me a week ago. I told him I would mention it on the air. 

 

Burt:  Oh, wonderful.

 

Brian:  There are so many places around our world.  Dennis Kucinich has gone out and tried to get a Department of Peace placed in our Congress, but maybe a lot of people don't realize that there are 30 other countries that have already been working on Departments of Peace in their countries.  It is a worldwide phenomenon that is going on.  With all of our synergies working together, we will see dramatic changes in our world. It's coming in the very near future.  It's happening now.

 

Burt:  There's actually in TheShiftMovie reference to the fact that, not only are there 1000s of these movements, with hundreds of thousands of people involved all over the world, but they are leaderless.  They don't have a leader.  It's a grassroots movement.  And that is exactly what we are, Brian.

 

Brian:  We're leaderless, but we are using our oneness symbol to really connect everyone to that core truth. That is really the key, to know that when we are working out there, we are never alone.  We have partners and teammates everywhere and, as you can attest, they are worldwide.  In each new day, there are thousands more coming.

 

Brian: Burt and Bob, we are at the end of our time for today, but I want to thank both of you for the great work that you are doing with ABC4All, for the research, and for tying into these companies that are going to give relief for our world.